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The "active lists" controls (pause, play, etc) are now gone.

ddapore99   December 17th, 2010 8:07a.m.

Where did the pause, play, and the other controls under "active lists" go? All I can see now are links to lists I have made. I liked having the option to pause lists. Are those controls really gone?

Byzanti   December 17th, 2010 8:42a.m.

I haven't tried, but I think you should be able to start/stop lists there. Just start/stop rather than play/pause...

(On another note, they still need to better order the lists - put the active ones first, and the finished ones last)...

ddapore99   December 17th, 2010 8:58a.m.

You're right but I make my custom lists based on primitives I need to study. As I come across new Kanji for the JLPT I add the primitives I need to my lists. So far so good. But when I get a Kanji with multiple primitives dependent on others I like to put them in different sections so I don't start studying the larger primitives until I have learned the smaller. I want to keep adding Kanji and study my past sections at the same time but not go further than the section I'm currently in until I feel ready. Before I could tell Skritter to stop adding Kanji at the end of each section and I could see where I was for Kanji being added in each section. Now the only way I can study all the Kanji in a section without going over is to go to the vocab list and go through each section 1 by 1. It reduces the efficiency of my ability to review older Kanji in my custom lists. I feel as if I have lost important features for no reason. I don't like this.

ddapore99   December 17th, 2010 9:19a.m.

I can understand wanting to make stuff less confusing but I don't like features I use being dropped. I want the option to have Skritter stop adding kanji when I get to the end of a section. If I have to rely on myself to click the stop adding button just before I get to the next section I'm going to screw up and be studying some Kanji before I want to. And there is no way to fix a screw up like that as clicking the stop adding button will still leave me the kanji I don't want to study. The new way takes me too far too fast with no way to go back.

Byzanti   December 17th, 2010 9:48a.m.

Yeah, I also liked the stop at end of section bit. It was useful for studying chapters in textbooks without going over to the next one. It's no deal breaker for me, but it was certainly a nice feature.

Byzanti   December 17th, 2010 10:52a.m.

Ohh, I've found it. It's been moved to the bottom of your study settings in account "stop adding from list on section complete". Yay.

nick   December 17th, 2010 11:28a.m.

We had determined that almost no one used the feature (partially due to the general invisibility of that menu), but decided to keep it around in the study settings.

ddapore99   December 17th, 2010 6:45p.m.

Wow Byzanti, I never thought to check in "account" thanks for finding it.

To the Skritter team I'm glad you didn't get rid of the feature. I have been using Skritter for almost a year but it hasn't been until recently that I've started to understand it's many nuances and features. What follows is my story of why it has actually taken me so long to start using that important feature.

This is actually the second time I've studied the JLPT4 list. The first time I studied it I didn't study the readings or definitions and was surprised to learn at the end that Skritter only gave me half of the vocab I wanted to study because the readings and definitions sections were turned off. After they added the mnemonics section I decided to delete my half completed list and start fresh on the JLPT4. I decided I would use the new mnemonic section along with Kanji Koohii to create mnemonics in Skritter for every kanji I came across. Unfortunately the JLPT and Heisig deliver the Kanji in different orders so I needed to create my own Kanji lists for all of the primitives the JLPT list was skipping over. (By the way this was the first time I created my own custom lists.) After I started to create my first list I noticed it was getting quite long and decided to break it up in logical sections based on size and not wanting bigger primitives of smaller primitives in the same section. At first I was just cramming each section but latter (the last few weeks) I decided I had a lot of sections and needed to review past lists without going to the next section. And that is why I haven't used the feature until recently. It wasn't that I didn't need or want it was just that it has taken time to develop my study methods using Skritter.

sarac   December 18th, 2010 10:05a.m.

I used it, too, for just the reason Byzanti says plus I like noticing that a section/chapter is finished.

Neil   December 20th, 2010 5:19a.m.

while on the topic of individual lists and the new layout, a small bug: - on the study page the green study buttons for individual lists are not green for lists 6 onwards.

scott   December 20th, 2010 5:01p.m.

Bug reproduced, should be easy to fix. Thank Neil!

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