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Lose progress when Studying a Section

atdlouis   August 23rd, 2011 11:38a.m.

I lose all of my study progress when I study an isolated section. While I am logged in and studying, I will work my way down the section, with the words showing study progress with green highlights.

However, when I log out, all of this progress is gone. Furthermore, these words are not added to "My Words," so that I can't study these words when I do a general "Study" of all my words.

This is extremely frustrating and did not happen before the site change. The section is in my Miscellaneous list; this list is in the "Adding words from" status.

Did this happen to anyone else? Did anyone figure out how to fix this?

scott   August 23rd, 2011 2:57p.m.

I looked into this, it appears to be doing this because that section you're trying to study is set to be skipped. In the new system, words in skipped sections are not studied at all (within the context of that list at least), except in this case when you study a single section like that.

No progress was lost though; even if a word is removed from studies all the times that you studied it remains in the system.

Let me know if this still occurs once the section is no longer skipped, or if anyone else sees this happening when it shouldn't.

jcdoss   August 23rd, 2011 5:11p.m.

I have a similar issue. I had a huge list with numerous sections, and I decided to split the sections each into their own list. Some of the sections in the original big list were finished, others weren't. I copied and pasted words from each section into their own list, added that list as new, then deleted the corresponding section. All lists, including those from the completed sections, are showing up as essentially unstudied.

I don't mind, so long as the words in these lists that are now showing up as unstudied will show up when it's their time. I don't see any data on when these words are due, so I don't know if/when that will happen.

scott   August 23rd, 2011 6:16p.m.

That will happen as soon as you add back those new lists. I would have them all set to be added from and allow them to quickly add back to your studies all together, or study individual lists you particularly want back soon.

I suppose one way to fix this would be to have a built in mechanism for moving words or sections from one list to another, rather than having to export the list. Then, if the target list were being studied, the study status of the words themselves wouldn't have to change. One idea anyway.

atdlouis   August 23rd, 2011 6:45p.m.

Scott,

Perhaps I don't understand the new system, but I have 3 sections that I have set to be "studied" in my Miscellaneous list:

Advanced Reader 1.1.1 text
Advanced Reader 1.1.1
NPCR 41.1

I studied each of these individually, and all of my progress is gone. If I have these set to be skipped, can you explain how to set it to be studied?

scott   August 23rd, 2011 8:00p.m.

I think it's mainly that our system doesn't currently work well with the fact that you cram individual sections. Normally the way you study a list is to study the whole list, or all lists together, at least that's our assumption when we design the site, because we believe it's generally more efficient. We should fix the section cramming to work better though.

I'd say to make it work best, go to the list settings (click Change Study Settings on the left side of the list page) then choose the section where you want to start studying from (all sections before that section are not studied, you're basically giving Skritter a lower bound on what you want to study). Since you want to study all the first three sections, you'd want to have the starting section be "Advanced Reader 1.1.1 text".

Then after that, edit what sections you want to skip studying. You currently have these sections being skipped:

听力中级 上 #3
ChinesePod 中国通 3/3
Advanced Reader 1.1 3/3

Change those settings to be however you want, skip the sections you don't want to study.

Then either study the whole list from the study page, or continue studying individual sections as you have been. You can study the whole list here:

http://www.skritter.com/study

Hope that helps!

atdlouis   August 23rd, 2011 8:05p.m.

Hi Scott,

I think I've figured it out, thanks. I really love all the changes you have done to the site. Before, I had figured work-arounds to how I study.

For example, I use the New Practical Chinese Reader textbook, but I don't like to study individual characters. I had to make my own lists of characters, because I couldn't block the individual characters in the vocab lists. Now I can, which makes things so much simpler.

It will just be a matter of time before I become accustomed to the things here. The changes are great.

Thanks,

Alex

scott   August 24th, 2011 12:06p.m.

Hey Alex,

Thanks, glad you like the changes! We really hope people find this new setup to be that much better for managing your vocabulary, and so far we're happy with the response. If you have any more questions please let us know.

On to the next project!

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