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Starred words SRS

Mandarinboy   May 31st, 2012 2:51a.m.

I am guilty of over using starred words.When ever I have a word that i have a hard time to remember I star it. I then practice this several times to really learn it at least short time. The problem is that each practice when i know the word will push the word forward in the "real" SRS. For many words that means months or even years. To avoid this i have to mark them as wrong when i am finished. Anyone else who would like to have an option to click "do not track progress" for starred words?

icebear   May 31st, 2012 10:15a.m.

Maybe just get a list of starred words in My Words, then copy into the scratchpad function?

DependableSkeleton   May 31st, 2012 2:07p.m.

I wish there was a convenient way to cram newish words without messing up the SRS. For example, it would be nice if there was a button that would only show me items which are scheduled for, say, less than 12 hours regardless of how close I am to them being due. As Mandarinboy points out, it would be necessary for progress tracking to turn off in this mode.

On a related point, sometimes I mark a word wrong if I feel that I got correct because of some extra help. For example, if I add a new word to a list, I often remember it when it comes up as "new" even though I only recently found it in a dictionary.

atdlouis   June 1st, 2012 12:00a.m.

+1, export starred words to scratchpad. That would be awesome. When I cram starred words, I don't want them to mess up the SRS either.

Bohan   June 1st, 2012 5:00a.m.

I agree.

Sometimes I don't want to use the starred words feature because it's too inconvenient to export to scratchpad. It would be cool if we could drill them with tracking off, so that it wouldn't affect the srs

kaysik   June 1st, 2012 11:58a.m.

Classic SRS algorithm simply uses next time = (last time * 2). People mess with the value and it gets more complicated when you start taking in history heuristics for sure, but that's the idea. What's missing is that if you review early, the next time gap doesn't take that into account.

I read that one of the SRS systems, and I can't remember which one, takes into account the actual time passed when you get something correct. You then get a new time based on the % of real time vs scheduled time.

So instead of new = old*2 you get:

Next Interval = last interval + (Actual Interval * SRS Modifier)

In the simplest method SRS Modifier is 1, so in a perfect world you get double the last gap because last time + actual time = double. This then works out to be the same as above:

I was meant to wait 1 hour, I did wait 1 hour:
Next Interval = 60m + (60h * 1) = 2 hours

But it gets cooler when you don't spend as much time as you should:

I was meant to wait 1 hour, but I only waited 15 minutes:
Next Interval = 60m + (15 * 1) = 75m

I was meant to wait 2 weeks but I only waited 5 minutes? Next interval is 2 weeks and 5 minutes, not a month!

So if you keep reviewing stuff early, it's simply impossible to get something up to 1 month wait time in only a day.

Not trying to suggest this is something that Skritter teams should actually do (and who knows they might have it already in some form). But I do also find myself often marking things wrong that I got right. Otherwise I know Skritter will put it too far out if I review something multiple times in the same day.

nick   June 3rd, 2012 2:04p.m.

Our SRS takes the actual interval into account, somewhat as you describe, but more complicated (in good ways).

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