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Progress recalc

Dennis   February 22nd, 2012 3:05p.m.

It seems there was a feature that would allow one to ask for a complete re-calc in the background of one's progress. Is this feature still available? I have an e-mail of the results on 2/11. I can't seem to find it in the beta or the production version of Skritter and I've not been able to find a reference in the forum. It's probably staring me in the face.

Byzanti   February 22nd, 2012 3:18p.m.

You can do it under progress - totals (it's at the bottom), but I wouldn't recommend it unless there is something seriously wrong with your stats -- there'll be a few anomalies after..

Dennis   February 22nd, 2012 4:07p.m.

Thanks. Byzanti

It seemed to me that for the last few days, I had been getting a lot more characters correct and my totals weren't going up as much as I expected. Perhaps the range of characters being presented to me is larger than I had imagined and they aren't getting to the known stage as fast as it seemed they should.

Byzanti   February 22nd, 2012 5:07p.m.

The known stage is successfully repeating the character after a 12 hour interval (without dropping back under that). I'd be surprised if recalculating your progress did anything -- I've never heard of a major miscount from general Skrittering. The time I had to recalculate was when a bug with the iphone app left me apparently knowing 70k words and 60k characters...

I'd suggest try Skrittering a bit more, and see if it really doesn't match reality before going as far as recalculating!

Dennis   February 22nd, 2012 5:37p.m.

Recalculating didn't change anything. As I said, I think I have a lot more characters to review, so characters were not re-appearing fast enough to get to the known stage. Part of this was impatience and part was because the known values had jumped quite a bit y for a few days and then dropped off. I really didn't expect anything to change.

As an aside it would be nice if you could pull more data from Skritter. Perhaps a Skritter API.

scott   February 24th, 2012 1:22p.m.

The progress page and the scheduling are actually two completely separate things, so recalculating your progress has no effect on when things appear for study. Essentially, the progress page is a series of snapshots of how many items you know, which are adjusted as you study. Sometimes the adjustments get a little off, so when you recalculate your progress it goes back to the source, the extensive scheduling data, and crunches the numbers from the ground up and puts them into your progress stats.

It looks like you have a lot of words to review though, several hundred right now, so I think the best bet for getting the number of characters you know to increase is to work on that review queue, bringing it down to zero over a couple days. Then keep an eye on the totals window, which will tell you how many you've added vs how many you've learned.

Dennis   February 24th, 2012 4:17p.m.

Thanks, Scott. Actually, my review count is sort of misleading. I'm only working on the list: "Heisig - Traditional - Second Time." The great majority of review items are from my two other lists with which I'm doing nothing at the moment so the review list will remain large for awhile. The next day the counts of Character Writings Learned jumped about 30 items so the counts are more as I expected them to be.

At any rate I think I now understand why running re-calc wouldn't do what I wanted.

So, why am I doing nothing with the two lists? I'm going through the first Heisig book for traditional characters. I found that I had a lot of trouble working with "Rapid Literacy in Chinese", a fairly large list, at the same time. The two methods of studying characters, Heisig and plain old memorization for RLC wern't working for me because the Heisig method is becoming ingrained. I wanted prefabricated stories for the characters in RLC!

When I've gotten far enough in Heisig, I'll start on RLC again. I wrote a program that calculates how many of the RLC characters are covered by the characters I've learned from Heisig. When the coverage of RLC is pretty high I'll go back. If I've used the Heisig method properly, I should be able to zip through RLC. ;-)

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